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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: May 30, 2007 12:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tunnelvision part 357

Big arguement against direct downloads for commercially released cd's is the sound quality, but there may be hope on the horizon. Currently, commercial songs available for download come along with DRM systems that prevent illegal copying (its this type of technology that prevents a download from being able to be played on ALL media devices), the other big downside of this is that current downloads are at a rate of 128 kbps. This diminishes the overall sound quality on playback, making it well below "CD Quality", a big drawback for the true audiophiles among us (similar to "Lossy" v. "Lossless"). Recently, iTunes and EMI have announced that the entire EMI catalog will now be made available in both the AAC format (a slightly superior type of encoding compared w/ MP3) and without DRM. This will now allow a rate of 256 kbps, acheiving a much closer to "CD Quality" playback (which would now work on ANY media player). If GD material can be made available in such an improved format, I know that I would be much more likely to purchase.
But, like you say, it is theirs to do with as they see fit, like it or not. I, for one, feel very fortunate that we have had such free access to such a vast quantity of their material for so long and have no issues with Rhino, yet. And as long as we continue in the spirit of free trading that has kept the music alive and helped expose it to new "followers" (as well as allowed many of us to make, and continue making, new friends), I think we'll be ok.

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: May 30, 2007 12:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tunnelvision part 357

Howsomeever, downloads from bands such as the Dead, Pearl Jam, the Allmans, et al. are usually available in mp3---FLAC. FLAC and Shn are lossless. I believe that GDP made things available in both lossy and lossless forms.

But count me in as one of those suckers who loves the full package.

Here's a curious note (for those who care): Pearl Jam, who was the first band to offer all of its concerts in cd format, switched to dls to save their fans a few bucks. (The 2000 and 2003 tours were cd, the 2005 was lossy dl, and the 2006-7 in lossy or flac.) These shows were mixed immediately following each show and came with dowloadable covers. The recent mixes are pretty rough matrixes, so PJ is releasing a separate package--a 7 cd box set from three of its shows, remixed from multi track. They will no doubt sell like hotcakes despite the fact that over 70 concerts have been released from this tour and the fact that all 70 plus can now be had for free.

The point is that there are plenty of folks who want the cleanest, prettiest package they can get! Same with the GD--like I said, I'm one of the suckers!

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Poster: midnight sun Date: May 30, 2007 2:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tunnelvision part 357

trying to pin down the demographics of a moving underground target that refuses to be categorized must be the ultimate challenge in futility to any corporate marketing division...good luck!

as far as marketing this stuff to the masses, forget it...imbalanced mixes of performances riddled with out of tune vocals, miscues and extended instrumental Controlled-Kaos that most people think of as pure nonsense...the average person doesn't have enough fascination with the X-factor nor the necessary tools of selective hearing that deadheads have cultivated in order to get past the rubble to the rubies

i remember the band having a major falling out about 5 or 6 years ago...they wanted to rough mix and digitize the entire vault and put it all up for grabs on the net as a testament to their art form ("it's not doing anyone any good sitting in the vault" - Mickey), with only Phil dissenting on the grounds of quality control...i know that this is out of their control now (barring any fine print vetoes), but what do you think GOP, is this still a valid issue?

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: May 30, 2007 4:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tunnelvision part 357

I seem to find who said what to whom and when hazy at best. God knows what goes on behind closed doors.

I think it is incredible that you can dl as much as you can on various dotorgs. I could never listen to it all--even just a few years--and really absorb it.

When I consider that back in the day (say 1971), most of what we had was a fist full of hissy auds that we drooled over, I think what is out there is a true blessing, not to be abused or belittled.

I can see the debate over what to release--what you and I want as opposed to what they think is good. I've got my list; you've, no doubt, got yours.

It's a mess, to say the least. But it's a mess with a whole lot more good than bad in it.

Bottom line for this ghost: keep 'em coming. I'll gladly pay for the ones I want, just like any other consumer. I wish they'd started this thirty years ago!!!

And, yes, you can't please everyone. But you can sure as hell try!

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